tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-69878112011-09-01T21:03:56.810+08:00musings on the emerging churchshane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.comBlogger211100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-40496921048990892782007-12-22T11:39:00.000+09:002007-12-22T11:47:28.056+09:00Merry ChristmasIt seems to me now that to be a blogger you have to blog. Christmas services now loom for me at St Hilda's. 3 on Sunday; 2 on Monday and 2 on Christmas Day. Then a week in Broome, in the North West of Western Australia - yeh.Having spent three years in this parish i realise i am only just stracting the surface when it comes to changing the church around to a missional footing. Plans for 2008 shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-8344364664593238582007-12-18T20:58:00.000+09:002007-12-18T21:00:56.880+09:00St Hilda's Web PageIt has taken too long for this 40 year old priest with a heart for the post-modern church to get his church a bit post-modern even with a web page. Anyway here it is: www.northperth.perth.anglican.org check it outshane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1119931394038918002005-06-28T11:55:00.000+08:002005-06-28T12:03:14.043+08:00Now a humble parish priestSince my last post over 6 months ago i have accepted a position as parish priest at st hilda's anglican church, north perth, western australia.having recovered from the shock of being in a parish after an absence of 6 years i have only now found the time to return to regular blogging.it seems to me that congregations are on the whole eager for change if only to give them a sense of being okay shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com55tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1094919644415280682004-09-12T01:17:00.000+08:002004-09-12T00:20:44.416+08:00workshop to prepareI haven't had a lot of time to blog recently since I got back from my trip. With my boss about to retire I have been involved in a lot of farewell functions for him (Primate of the Anglican Church of Australia)
We are having our General Synod of the national church in a couple of weeks and I am responsible for the worship. I am planning to expose the church to some of the stuff I have shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1088413817612513132004-06-28T16:59:00.000+08:002004-06-28T17:10:17.613+08:00a completely new thing or just a new package for the old thing?I think one of the tensions about the 'emerging' stuff all around the world is how much is actually 'new' or is it the case that we are just doing what everyone has done for pretty much the last 2000 years - and that is making the gospel fit the culture.
ie is it a new gospel or is it the old gospel in new wineskin?
i think the evangelicals among us and maybe others would say it is the gospel shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1087805914650233602004-06-21T16:01:00.000+08:002004-06-21T16:18:34.650+08:00difference between us and england on emerging churchi have been impressed with the 'living room' established by karen and co (COTA)in seattle. (see it at www.livingroomseattle.org )
it makes me think and ask the question:is this the new church
ie provide an all round space which the new church is but one part of, or even sponsers the space. it seems that it creates an interest among people; creates a neutral space inwhich people feel shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1087780167741427272004-06-21T09:09:00.000+08:002004-06-21T09:09:27.740+08:00karen @ kangaroo and kiwi pub in seattlekaren ward @ kangaroo and kiwi pub, seattleshane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1087737722330278342004-06-20T21:19:00.000+08:002004-06-20T21:22:02.330+08:00have started editing the videowhile recently away i managed to take about 5 hours of video of the places where i visited. (including a really good interview with karen ward) i have started to edit this stuff and was wondering whether anybody knew how to get a video on to a web page or blog.? i need help!shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1087433935803803622004-06-17T08:47:00.000+08:002004-06-17T08:58:55.803+08:00back in australiahave arrived back home after a whirlwind three weeks around the world.all up i was able to experience 'church of the apostles' and 'quest' in seattle; 'st bartholomew's episcopal church' in new york; and 'st luke's west holloway', 'grace' and 'moot' while in london.
i suppose there are many insights concerning the emerging church and i will endeaver to ponder them here over the next month or so.shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1087001390201734612004-06-12T08:44:00.000+08:002004-06-12T08:49:50.203+08:00golly old londonafter a shocking flight from nyc i am here in london over the weekend til i fly back to australia on mon.
conference at st barts nyc was overall okay and in parts excellent. in terms of the five worships offered there is not anything a well versed alt.worship person would find interesting. standing around the altar, co-celebration very good.
what did make me think is the notion of 'radical shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1086271078835993472004-06-03T21:51:00.000+08:002004-06-03T21:57:58.836+08:00in nyc at lastflew out of seattle on tuesday morning bound for nyc and arrived late at 10pm. after standing in line for about 45m for a taxi i finally arrived at the house of the redeemer on 95th street (upper east side) only to find it all closed up for the night. so i walked down madison a couple of blocks and found a bar open til 3.00am. I still had about 5 hours to kill so i was directed to an all night shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1086028322686908092004-06-01T02:17:00.000+08:002004-06-01T02:32:02.686+08:00kangaroo & kiwi pub, theology of belguim beer & liquid churchwent with karen to the kangaroo and kiwi pub sunday night to check it out. only in america would they be as rude as put the kiwis with kangaroos but who are they to know..(from a culture that can put george bush in the white house i suppose anything is possible!)
but it wasnt that bad..the place started to get busy around 10.30pm and there seemed to be a small expat community in seattle that shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1085962773185028532004-05-31T08:18:00.000+08:002004-05-31T08:19:33.186+08:00bloody cyberspaceopps - its looks like my blog found the original post i did on pentecost so now there are two reports - just choose the one u like the most - by the way - anyone out there reading this...shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1085962483787593742004-05-31T07:30:00.001+08:002004-05-31T08:14:43.786+08:00pentecost worship @ church of the apostleswow - how to describe the liturgy at church of the apostles, seattle, under the gentle leadership of karen ward. i tried to write a post about it that turned into a small essay and then disappeared into the ether when i tried to publish, so this time i will be short and hope it gets up.
if i were to interpret the worship from the point of the view of 'traditional anglican/episcopal liturgy'then shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com398tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1085944643186810992004-05-31T03:17:00.000+08:002004-05-31T03:17:23.186+08:00wow - how to describe the worship for pentecost @ COTA. karen ward, pastor of this episcopal/lutheran emerging church plant, has stated that some call it digital orthodoxy and i think this is right on the money. in a small office front at 4301 fremont ave n, seattle, you encounter the living:room - the worship space for COTA and also used by the arts collective and other groups as a performance shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1085785272080983392004-05-29T06:59:00.000+08:002004-05-29T07:01:12.080+08:00cotafinally after a million hours on 4 flights find myself in seattle staying with karen ward, pastor of church of the apostles - one of the few postmodern emerging churches in the states. have video camera this time around so will be able to interview her and others about what the emerging church looks like in this place. stay tuned for insights...shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1085020270166977002004-05-20T10:21:00.000+08:002004-05-20T10:31:10.166+08:00church as river barge continued"it is understandable that those on the barge suffered and many became desperate. some are still trying to row back upstream, but that is proving impossible. it also displays a lack of faith in the god of histor and in the leadership of the church which..believes that the modern world is where the church wants to be. some jumped overboard in ones and twos hoping to survive in small dinghies, shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1084959804489186992004-05-19T17:43:00.000+08:002004-05-19T17:43:24.490+08:00one lha (large happy anglican) shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1084933330706970282004-05-19T10:18:00.000+08:002004-05-19T10:22:10.706+08:00church as river barge contOur problem is that in our time the river has hit the sea, with obvious results for the barge. There is nothing wrong with reaching the sea: that is where rivers are meant to go. But the barge which has done an excellent job in bringing us down the river is not built for breaking through waves and negotiating the open sea. The waves are coming against the flow of the river. They are pounding shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1084757618417674102004-05-17T09:27:00.000+08:002004-05-17T09:33:38.416+08:00church as river bargethe following is a story from 'a priest after my own heart' by michael fallon (st paul's publications nsw 2001 pp.142-144)
"the church of yesterday can be likened to a river barge. it was a large barge, with straight front and sides and with a flat bottom, well built for navigating a river and able to carry a huge cargo of churches, schools, rectories, assistant curates and chaplains etc. There shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6987811.post-1084523786624444892004-05-14T16:30:00.000+08:002004-05-14T16:36:26.623+08:00finally entering 21cbeen wanting to do this for a while and have got the courage to go on line. i believe the future church will need to have a option for international and internet community building - not just local 'live within walking distance' types of churches and i think 'blogs' are part of that. i have been impressed with other blogs and so finallt have one myself. thanks to blogger.com its even free, and shane g hubnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07510421890661078746noreply@blogger.com0